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Subject: Re: Tipping taboos
From: KdiddyinLaX
Posted: Wed Mar 26. 2003, 20:59 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Tipping taboos"  by KdiddyinLaX  (Wed Mar 26. 2003, 20:53 UTC)
> > > As in "I hate people that use words in an un-pc way?". :} Who 
> > started 
> > > 
> > > these personal attacks anyway?
> > 
> > What people Dan?  Lynn?  I dont think she ever said anything to the 
> > 
> > effect of hating anyone.  It is distinctly my understanding it is the 
> > 
> > judging another person by the job they have to make a living.
> > 
> > > Why is it so forbidden to talk about tipping?
> > > 
> > > Not getting specifically at you or your post here, it's a general 
> > 
> > > observation I've seen and experienced, even sympathise with.
> > 
> > 
> > Jealousy.  Which is why it is forbidden discussion to stay employed 
> > 
> > at the restaurant I work at.  One server or bartender is always 
> > whining about money or not making any money and we, the managers, do 
> > 
> > our best to eliminate it by stating that nowhere in the restaurant or 
> > 
> > parking lot, or while in uniform, is appropriate to discuss tips.  
> > 
> > (specifics)  As, with the customers, they can hear it and then they 
> > 
> > get offended and don't return or feel like they should tip someone 
> > 
> > that obviously earns a great living (and maybe more than they make 
> > 
> > for a living).  And there I am telling them I'm sorry for their bad 
> > 
> > experience with my staff and giving away free gift certificates to 
> > 
> > hope that customer returns again.
> > 
> > the good drink doctor
> 
> I didn't say I hate you for being a "Top-Down" manager.  When i say 
> top down i take to mean a manager who delegates responsibility to 
> everybody they can, just because they are a manager.  I would rather 
> have a manager who welcomes input from staff and implements that in a 
> positive way.  And btw, what kind of employees do you have that, 
> apparently, discuss tips in front of customers?  I'd like to know 
> what kind of turnover rate you have at your 
> establishment...Apparently your staff isn't happy with their 
> situation (money, job satisfaction).  Seems like you're the one who 
> should get a new job...

One more thing...what is the wage in Ohio for servers and bartenders?  In WI, 
it's 2.33/hr. servers and min. wage for bartenders.  


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