Message 25986 of 39188 in General Discussion

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> Have to disagree MASSIVELY there Cody! The Martini is still around 
> because it is the purest of cocktails. I would say that everything 
> you've mentioned has actually damamged the real martini (gin, 
> vermouth, twist) as people want to drink the shaken vodka version. 
> Also, how can a martini be easy to make? I've read posts on here 
> where 'tenders assume making a martini means getting cold vodka and 
> pouring it into a cocktail glass. A real martini takes skill and 
> requires the bartender to ask how dry, lemon or twist, brand etc. 
> It's about understanding the dillution process, the ratio of gin to 
> vermouth, the different citrus twist for the required gin and so on. 
> A bartender that canmake a great martini understands balance and that 
> for me is the most important part of cocktail bartending.

Ugg, fine, somebody get the hammer...I'll beat in the point *you ignored* from 
my post.  I understand I probably didn't phrase this line quite 
right/appropriately, but this is what I said:

"Sure, some people like it, but the types that truly and honestly like it over 
so many more recent contributions are far and few between I think."

Again, not stated quite right, after re-reading it I realize it could come off 
as insulting or dismissive of the group.  The original intent of that phrase 
was to convey that there aren't very many that appreciate a true and properly 
made martini.

Now, to the other part...I suppose I should appologize for not doubling the 
length of my posting by clarifying details such as the fact I was referring to 
a vodka martini when I used the word "Martini".  I assumed that all of us 
professionals would be able to understand that from the context...

Please, Nidal, I'm talking about *Marketting*, something that all countries 
and people can get together on and agree, is the single driving force that 
destroys any and all culture, ruins lives, and leads people down the path of 
vanity, materialism, and actually buying the Pet Rock.  I'm not talking about 
quality, and I find it scary that you feel the need to inject that element 
into this branch of the thread when it's not necessary.

-- 
Cody