Message 9645 of 22774 in Behind the Bar

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> You really are on some sort of trip about this aren't you?

..... funny, I was thinking the same about the comments to the contrary.
 
> Look, what I'm seeing in the posts here is a complete inability to 
> distinguish between consuming large amounts of alcohol on a regular 
> basis and taking a sip of something to figure out what it tastes 
> like.

Oh.. that's not what I got. What I got was, 'you gotta drink'. Be the amount a 
quarter of a teaspoon, or a fifth, the point is still the same: 'you gotta'. 

I don't get 'gotta'.

Do you get 'gotta'? Why?
 
> It's sounding like the old temperence battle cry, where there was no 
> grey area between abstainence and alcoholism. No-one is saying you 
> have to get sloshed, just that it's a reasonable request for a server 
> to know what they are serving.

But I don't want to. And there are others that don't want to. No matter the 
reason. Be it, 'I'm a diabetic, and my doctor told me NOT to', or 'I don't 
like the taste of the stuff', or 'I'm going to my grave able to say I never 
took a drink'. Heck, those are just quick and easy reasons NOT to.

No... why does comments such as this make the hair on the back of your neck 
stand up?

The point, my point, remains the same: not every one CHOOSES to drink, and as 
this is a free country, and since the repeal of PROHIBITION, people have the 
CHOICE, I don't see why saying someone MUST drink is any less of an onus than 
saying someone MUST NOT drink.

Guess what I choose? 
 
> To refuse to allow a drop on your tongue, unless you've got a 
> full-blown allergy, is pointless.

LOL... You are cracking me up!

> To make a scene about it is 
> unprofessional, and to continue to say you'd take your tutor to court 
> for insisting you learnt what you were supposed to be doing is silly. 

But who is making the scene? And the court situation is very real: you can't 
MAKE someone. If I paid for Bartending School, not wine-tasting, not liquor 
tasting, guess what: you can't MAKE any one taste the booze or else they are 
flunked. 

And if that was a requirement, they should have said that before they 
collected the money of the participants. Barring that, yes, whoever was 
flunked for 'failing' to consume adult beverages would have grounds, imo, to 
take the case to some authority to get their money back.

As a bartender, one is not supposed to be drinking.
 
> > and you do NOT have the RIGHT to try to 'force' me to drink.
> 
> My perogative as a trainer however would be to say "this person does 
> not have the attitude to become a professional bartender, or the 
> motivation to learn to do so."
> I offer a learning experience, you refused it, offering no good 
> explanation. Bad student. But no 'forcing' - you have the RIGHT to 
> choose to fail.

They did offer a good explanation: they don't WANT to.
 
> There is no way you could pass the wine-tasting segment with that 
> willful behaviour. Requirements are on the curriculum. Instructions 
> in every wine tasting book. Wine goes in mouth at some point. Laughed 
> out of court.

Um.... Sug... Sweetums...... where are you getting this notion that it's a 
requirement every where? Where are you getting it was a requirement in this 
course, and the students were told IN ADVANCE?
 
> > And what on earth about not choosing to drink compares to any of 
> > this?
> 
> Because running to the authorities when you are asked to do something 
> you don't feel like doing, without having any actual reason to 
> refuse, is the behaviour of an employee I can't imagine keeping. 

You say it's not a reason.... but why is your reasoning the only allowable 
reasoning?

So... now that I have come to the (valid) conclusion that you are an (Insert 
really good insult here, I can't think of one right now), I will end my 
discussions with you.. at least on this matter.

I'm about to go and have myself an Arizona Iced Tea, with Lemon... no 
booze.... Now I hope that makes you curl into a ball and just die a slow and 
painful death.

C'mon... please... for me?
 
-- 
Struggle is the proof you have not yet been conquered
- Author unknown