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Subject: Re: Red Bull/alcohol
From: apetail
Posted: Sat Aug 20. 2005, 13:48 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Red Bull/alcohol"  by Dan the Melon Man  (Sat Aug 20. 2005, 03:54 UTC)
> 
> No, I haven't seen it put like that either. My interpretation of the 
> warnings was that the stimulant properties of Red Bull ... 
> 
> A: by disabling some natural defenses, allows the body to phsically 
> take on more alcohol than would normally be the case.
> 
> B: by combatting the depressant properties of alcohol, 
> psychologically encourages the person to consume more than they are 
> aware of.
> 

I agree that a lot of mice were consuming a lot more alcohol when also getting 
caffeine. But it is phrases like these which I warn about.

> > > "The more dehydrated you are, the higher the blood level of alcohol — the 
> 
> > > higher the danger," Karam-Hage said.

That being caused by energy drinks is false. All of the references in the 
previous post didn't show higher levels of blood alcohol. Also the disabling 
of natural defenses was nowhere a point. It seems B to be the case. It is only 
still questionable how much an energy drink can contribute to more alcohol 
consumption. A human body is not a mouse in a laboratory. And also what is the 
effect compared with other dangers. Isn't it a goal of many to drink a lot of 
alcohol anyway? Wanting to feel drunk, impressing a nice girl of friends... 
there are a lot of dangers getting people drinking more alcohol or letting 
them feel they aren't drunk enough to drive. How much is an energy drink to 
blame and why pointing at energy drinks while it is alcohol which is the 
danger?

> 
> Nor, as I said earlier, do I believe that a bunch of educated 
> countries would formulate consumer protection laws with absolutely no 
> "good scientific foundation".
>

In that pdf-article (4.2.2) they tell that the concerns are supported with an 
analysis among consumers and parents who have been interviewed and a single 
case of a death of a young woman who consumed a number of energy drinks with 
alcohol in sweden. Other sources report three deaths.


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