Message 20331 of 39188 in General Discussion

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> > scientific tests have been made
> 
> Problem is I can't find them and there seems to be no one who can 
> show them.

No, I don't have the links to the charts, and I wouldn't understand them if I 
did.
Not least because the research was not done in English.

The evidence, such that I have, is that  a significant handful of European 
countries (where Red Bull has been available longer) have had their 
governments ban outright, restrict the sale of, or require great big health 
warnings on Red Bull.
I infer (rightly or wrongly) that these countries respective health experts 
presented a convincing case that brought these laws into effect. I believe 
that whoever heard that case/saw that proof/read those figures was educated 
enough to understand and believe them. Enough so to bring in new legislation 
against the product.
It does me no good to see the raw figures, but I will take the health 
departments word on what they mean.

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http://www.edc.org/hec/pubs/factsheets/energy-drinks.html
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Adverse Effects
Energy drinks can become dangerous when taken after exercise or mixed with 
alcohol.9,43 Adverse effects include dehydration, insomnia, headaches, 
nervousness, nosebleeds, and vomiting. Reports claim that energy drinks have 
caused even more severe reactions, such as seizure, heart arrhythmia, and 
death.9,44 The stimulating effect of energy drinks is deceiving, causing 
people to feel less intoxicated than they actually are and making it harder 
for bartenders to determine whether their patrons should no longer be served. 
As a result, people may be more inclined to drive while impaired.43 
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Add to this the behaviour of Red Bull marketing, on one side claiming there is 
no real problem, but on the other side stating that they choose not to promote 
at bars, while on the third side actually doing so. What was that documentary 
about the corporation being a sociopathic schizophrenic?

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http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/553/Grus.html
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in an article dated September 2002, the Red Bull website contained a statement 
regarding mixing Red Bull with alcohol: “You can mix it with alcohol, however, 
the positive effects of Red Bull might be impaired by alcohol.”[65] However, 
as of January 2003, this information was no longer listed on the web site.[66] 
While the disappearance of these questions from the web-site may just reflect 
that they are no longer frequently asked,[67] a more likely explanation is 
that Red Bull feared that the answers to those questions either were not true 
or did not wish to answer those questions in light of future potential 
litigation.
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I'm just saying there is a case to answer, there is a case to be made. 
The fact that those organisations who have done tests have reacted 
dramatically tells me lots.
The fact that the FDA has not, yet, done any tests at all does not mean that 
there are no dangers.

.dan.