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Subject: Re: "Kickbacks" are "Theft"
From: Dan the Melon Man
Posted: Tue Jan 14. 2003, 13:28 UTC
Followup to: "Re: "Kickbacks" are "Theft""  by RAngstrom  (Mon Jan 13. 2003, 18:43 UTC)
> > You looking for advice on how not to get caught?

OK, that last line was a little harsh, sorry.

However, I just took..
> tips on 'hooking' people up without getting into the muck with my boss
...to read that you didn't want your boss to know about it.
Otherwise you'd check with him directly, right?

Yes, you did phrase your post as a fair request on policies, and it is a 
contentious one worth getting opinions on. Asking ahead is a good move, and it 
is awkward if the policies haven't been made clear to you.
My less-inflamatory opinion on policies is elsewhere in this thread
[Dan the Melon Man] Re: "Kickbacks" are "Theft"

Your description of repaying tips directly with drinks sounded a little too 
much like the (as I call it) scam that messes up the tip system, and rips off 
the employer. In that sort of environment you breed punters that will refuse 
to tip unles you give them a freebie, and all sorts of other horrible hassles. 

You did say, 'buy' your customers a drink, by which I now guess you mean you 
actually payed for it yourself, right? OK. However many other 'tenders also 
use that word to mean they effectively gave it away and wrote it off.
"It's on me" is not the same as "It's on the house" unless you are the owner, 
but in practice it's not the customers problem.
Many of those 'tenders and probably a few here even, may think you're insane 
to pay anything from your own pocket (I was laughed at), but it's all relative.

> Do you have a guilty complex or something?

That was a warning, not a confession ;)
As in the earlier post I linked to, I worked alongside some big 
kickback-rakers that didn't think that what they were doing was wrong. 

Sorry for responding to an honest enquiry a little too snappily..

.dan.


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