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Subject: Re: Returning to the source?, then why not say so
From: Thinking Bartender
Posted: Fri Jan 20. 2006, 12:44 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Returning to the source?, then why not say so"  by robert  (Fri Jan 20. 2006, 11:04 UTC)
> I found a book t'other day from the 50's with a Canadian Blackberry 
> Fix (2 canadian, 1 lemon, .75 gomme built on crushed ice with 
> blackberry brandy floated on the top and garnisheed with a blackberry 
> and a lemon slice)... sounds like a bramble to me but 30 years before 
> Dick 'invented it'.
> [aw] Re: Books, Books, Books!!!
> 

Yeah, I think Dick knows about that drink, I would be suprised if he didn't. 
But I am mainly "going on" about people who seem to symatically go through 
their books, and try to "land grab" all the possible alternatives/ variations. 
It just seems sneaky to me thats all.

> I wouldn't say that it was uncreative to twist this drink (if indeed 
> it was twisted and not a coincidence) as the result is a very nice 
> drink! I know you worked with Dick B, do you have any insider info on 
> it?

I had 3 conversations with Dick about this, and only in 1 of the conversations 
did he kinda admit to the Bramble being a variation. Whether this was 
intentional, I don't know, but I have my ideas. 

There are a lot of Bartenders would prefer the Tequila Bramble over the normal 
recipe. Vodka Brambles are definately for the unadventurous.

> Specific to cocktaildb, they don't promote the creators by listing 
> them so I think it's unlikely there but in the wider world of 
> bartending, maybe?

I think that the vetting system for admitting new cocktails is a little biased 
toward one particular style of making cocktails (US - NYC). There is alot of 
crap on Cocktaildb.com and I often wonder just how they got in. Cronyism? 

If there were dates and names, then we could differentiate between historical 
recipes and whatever the rest could be called. I thought that each recipe had 
to be from a published source, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside.


Cheers!

George S.


 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
- Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.


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