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Subject: Re: Dry Martini - Shaken or Stirred?
From: Davidh
Posted: Fri Jul 10. 2009, 08:02 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Dry Martini - Shaken or Stirred?"  by Adam Elmegirab  (Thu Jul 9. 2009, 20:12 UTC)
yes you are absolutely right sir.  YOU mentioned the correct vermouth and not 
the gin, not me.  I only asked how you would prepare this if you didn't have 
anything to go by.  

call me crazy but my drinks taste better.  

and now you making the argument that even though the original says use this 
i'm going to use that instead, because I know it taste better.  I mean come 
the fuck on.  This is what I was saying.  I know a mint julep taste better 
properly shaken then strained over crushed ice, but every single piece of 
literature would indicate this is a build drink, so what do you do?

you can make this claim and it's valid, but you have to take into account that 
regardless of where you work, people still aren't going to know shit and be 
looking for their olives.  (well, I drink martini's all the time and it gets 
olives) or whatever.  The zest reflects the ingredients readily available at 
the time, so most likely yes, but you didn't know that.  You also have to take 
into account that you must conform to modern standards, techniques, and 
practices at some point in the game, people are just too fucking stupid man.  
They don't get it, they don't care, they want vodka and water and an olive.  
They want to see fire and layering and pretty pink, blue, and green drinks.  
They could care less about what's in it or where it came from.  things weren't 
always like this, and there is some comfort in that.  I'm sure in the more 
chivalrous days when gentlemen were gentlemen, people ordered and acted 
correctly, and drinks were more precise, because of the so few ingredients 
available. you had to make something taste completely different while using 
the same ingredients or damn near.  but now and days even your bartender's an 
asshole (DavidH) and guest say and do the darndest things.  personally, I like 
to save myself the time and use an olive, because if I served a dry martini 
with a zest or spiral, I know I would have to remake it. I don't expect 
anything of guest.  This is a two way street though, IF the guest is going to 
know to use top shelf liquor for their drinks then I will most definitely 
stick to the original recipe.  I don't even think I could ruin good liquor 
like that and not cry.  Either way, i'm a profiler from way back in the day, I 
know what they're going to ask for and tip before they do, I'm not right all 
the time, but i'm pretty good. So this means when I see that white zin bitch, 
or that bud light fuck, I know they want they're shit shaken like james bond, 
I think they just want to see you dance like a monkey like the barterders in 
the movies, it must be the way it's done.   I like to set change aside from 
the rest of my tip jars, and I buy drinks with it, I turn bad tippers into 
guys who buy drinks.  it's all about outlook and reality man, and you must 
have informed guest there. I call em like I see em, and I know most people 
have a negative 6th grade education when it comes to drinks. So if I couldn't 
ask or whatever, I would use vodka and shake it and kiss it with dry vermouth 
and I would use olives.  I don't have enough gin, lemons, or paitence to 
remake everything all night.  But again If they want a real martini yes, to 
the orange bitters, yes to the zest, but yes to old too man, yes to nolly. you 
can't do somethings old school and somethings not, doesn't work like that.  
this is only my stupid, crazy, retarded opinion right? that's rhetorical.   I 
mean people always have to be retarded in the hardest ways, like they won't 
say vodka neat, but they'll tell you this stupid ass recipe with fucking 15 
liquors in it, how terribly misinformed.  You don't go buy a car without know 
anything about it, same goes for everything, research then buy. not drinks, 
just fucking buy.  it's so scary with these people out here, I mean amf frozen 
maybe, I just can't see red bull, I just can't see it. how? how could you 
think? frozen redbull amf's for life.   


Now I could rant.

Like mother fuckers walking behind the bar? like what is their deal? it's so 
cool being back there! or like that's what makes me cool,being behind the bar? 
 so walking behind the bar will make you cool?  

or douchebag doorman drinking more than any guest, un fucking real. 

or one person see you make your mojito or cosmo or lemondrop with flamed twist 
and all and you fuck yourself.  because you'll be making them all night with 
fresh juices and all.  do you even know what i'm talking about, probably not.  
 

I don't think anything gets under my skin more than a retarded owner though, I 
worked for people in the past that are just completely fucking clueless, worse 
than red amf frozen, and they OWN A BAR!? how?

and there must be 5 billion bartenders according to what I hear, because damn 
near everyone I serve is a bartender apparently.  I don't even think there are 
any other occupations.  

but no, this is the way of things, good artist always die early, horrible 
artist live forever.  Just the way of the world.  

you're going to live a long fucking time. okay man, it's a joke, please. 


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