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Subject: Re: July 4th Drinks? For Davidh
From: angus
Posted: Sun Jul 5. 2009, 19:26 UTC
Followup to: "Re: July 4th Drinks? For Davidh"  by Davidh  (Sun Jul 5. 2009, 19:02 UTC)
Dear D,

wow... still angry! Why use loaded and offensive terms like fagets (sic)? Why 
claim in the loudest possible voice that you are a great bartender and then 
seem to prove you are not?

Tales is Tales of the Cocktail, indisputably the largest single gathering of 
Bartenders, Mixologists, writers, Distillers and the like in the world (and as 
someone who has attended Paris' Cocktails and Spirits show, Berlin's BarZone, 
Amsterdam's Venuez and is booked for Sydney BarShow and Berlin;s BCB I fele I 
talk with some authority on this one. Its odd you are unaware of it.

http://www.talesofthecocktail.com/


You talk about wanting a mentor and not having one but I fear even if someone 
did come up and offer (not that that is how it works with mentors) you would 
not think they could teach you anything

Who are the bartenders in the world you admire? Colin Field? Eben Freeman? 
Kazuo Ueda? Murray Stenson? Dick Bradsell? Gary Regan? Julio Bermejo? 
Salvatore Calabrese? Dario Comini? Charles Schumann? Christian Delpeche? I am 
interested to get a sense of your position and attitude.

When I mentioned 'mechanics' I meant in the old term sense of a bartender that 
methodically and mechanically (and often mindlessly) cranks out drinks - read 
Haywood Gould's Cocktail and you wil come across the sense of it (thats how 
Flanagan describes himself). I think we now call them flowbots.

I am not entirely sure that shaking a Malibu and Pineapple makes it a better 
drink or you a better bartender - I am sure that every bartender here, every 
book in your collection and the whole internet would sugegst its a built drink.

I personally figure you are filled with the arrogance of youth and are a big 
fish in a very little pond but most of us were at some stage - we then figured 
out that there is so much to know thats its scary and that as we serve people 
more than we serve drinks that being a people person is half the battle... and 
to be frank that seems to be a skill you are lacking right now.

If you truly want to learn then sign up to the BAR Course and sit back and 
watch Olson, Wondrich, Frost, DeGroff, Seymour and Pacult do their thing... I 
am sure you will learn more than just drinks. 

cheers

aw


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