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Subject: Re: Open a donut shop.
From: Chris Milligan
Posted: Tue Feb 10. 2009, 14:47 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Open a donut shop."  by open a donut shop  (Tue Feb 3. 2009, 00:44 UTC)
> > I needed to get your advice on some stuff.
> 
> okie dokie.. what kinda stuff..? :O O: :O
>  
> > What's the best way to go about lying your way into a bartending 
> > job?
> 
> Can you be more specific please..?  I'm not very fond of vague post.  
> Here's a Vague answer:  Make a fake resume and apply at every 
> possible establishment you can.  Ask your friends if they know anyone 
> who bartenders, networking is seriously like the key to life.. hence 
> "It's not what you know, its who you know" ... so be nice to 
> everybody cos at some point you'll probably want their help.   Also, 
> look on Craigslist.com and see if anyone is hiring, but whatever you 
> do, Do not send your resume via email, always ask for the location of 
> the bar, and go down there and apply in person.  If they email you 
> back with some bull shit answer like "sorry we can't do that" then 
> the place probably isn't right for you, try countering with "well I 
> need to make sure the place fits my requirments before I just give 
> you my resume.. that'd be a waste of both our time."
> 
> I still have a couple fake resumes on my computer from back in the 
> day.. I can email you one if you'd like :D. 
> 
> If not, and you decide to write your own resume (which I always 
> recommend for many obvious reasons) here are some tips:
> 
> The first key to lying on your resume is to list your references as 
> friends and use their phone numbers.  Warn them ahead of time that 
> you're doing this, especially if they have a custom voicemail that 
> states their real name; if so they're gonna have to change it back to 
> Default for two weeks.  You can also use your family members, but be 
> sure to list them under an alias.. so if your name is "John Doe", you 
> don't want to list "Jane Doe" as a reference... you'd change the last 
> name to something like "Jane Rodriguez."  That way there is no 
> connection that you are related to this person.
> 
> Example:
> REFRENCES:
> Max E. Pad - (YOUR FRIENDS PHONE NUMBER) - Bar Manager, Joshin Ya's 
> Bar & Grill
> Dixie Normous - (YOUR MUM'S PHONE NUMBER) - General Manager, Imah 
> Lyon's Diner
> 
> Another trick (if you have multiple phone lines) is to use YOURSELF 
> as a reference.. just make up a fake name, and list your phone 
> number(s) as the reference contact number.  The ONE time a manager 
> check my references, I had this scam going.  She called my house 
> asking for "Jimmy Rodgriguez" and I immediately knew what was going 
> on... I deepend my voice, and we had a short conversation of me 
> basically telling her everything she wanted hear. 5 minutes and DONE. 
>  Next day I was hired. Little did she know that it was actually me on 
> the other line hyping things up!! :O O: :O
> 
> Second key is to list job experience from places similar to where 
> you're applying at.  For instance, if you're applying at a night 
> club, don't list "Digsy's Diner - a charming "hole in the wall" 
> establishment with an atmosphere similar to the pub from Cheers." as 
> your most recent work experience... list something like "Razzel's 
> Night Club - very high volume club located in the heart of Ft. 
> Lauderdale, Florida.  A popular destination amongst tourist as well 
> as locals" 
> 
> So to summarize,
> If you're applying at:
> Restaurant - List mostly restaurant experience
> Night club - list mostly night club experience
> Pub - List mostly pub expierence
> Airport - airport expierence... 
> etc.. etc........
> 
> WARNING:  during your interview, Management will 100% of the time ask 
> you, "So, why did you leave your last job" ...  BE PREPARED.  Never 
> tell them you were fired, and never, EVER, tell them you left because 
> of some negative factor. (i.e. "i hated my co-workers" , "my boss was 
> a cunt") A good answer would be something like "I left my previous 
> job because I feel like I have outgrown it, It became too easy, I 
> thrive on challenging myself." ;)
> 
> k thats it for now, Sorry for any spelling//gramatical errors, I'm 
> writing this post half asleep, I'm gonna go take a nap with the babe 
> now... 
> 
> Oh btw, If you end up writing your own resume, check out these links 
> for help
> - 
> http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2006/how-to-write-a-bartending-resume/
> - http://www.misscharming.com/CustomBartenderTips.pdf  (PDF FILE)
> 
> > I'd appreciate anything.
> 
> yeah, np man.. I know how it is stressing to find a job and being new 
> in the business.. I know it's hard to believe, but EVERYONE has been 
> there, and everyone has to pay their dues and go thru it.. But Just 
> remember, It's not really the resume that gets you the job.  It is 
> your attitude and how well you present (sell) yourself to the 
> managers from the moment you meet, to the day your hired.  Clean, 
> Professional, upbeat, and slightly cocky has never let me down.  The 
> most important thing about your resume is it being gramatically 
> correct.. and thats it.
> 
> Lastly, are you prepared...? Knowledge wise I that is..?  Read this 
> post/thread:
> [open a donut shop] Re: Starting Out?
> before you do anything.  DO NOT apply for a job until you have 
> atleast some what of a clue to what you're doing.  I know you can't 
> afford bar school so you're probably in a rush to get hired and start 
> making some money, but trust me on this, LEARN THE BASICS.  Cos if 
> you don't, you're just going to get yourself fired.. and then you'll 
> have wasted all that time, and still be broke.  If you need quick 
> money, go to craigslist.com and look under the "gigs" section.. they 
> have a lot of daily labor that pays like $50 for helping someone move 
> furniture or a fish tank or something...  And if you're a girl you 
> could always Strip for a week or two.. I know a few club owners and 
> they're always looking for new girls.  Pays Great too, More than 
> you'll ever make bartending.  And lastly, although I don't recommend 
> it, you can sell drugs temporarily.  I remember when I was 18 I got 
> in a car accident and needed to come up with money FAST.  I got to 
> talking to some people and before I knew it I turned $200 into $12K 
> in two months just wandering around my college campus selling 
> weed/vicodin/coke/e-pills.  But Beware, the money is EXTREMELY 
> ADDICTIVE... and sooner or later YOU WILL GET CAUGHT.  the key is to 
> just Get in and Get out as fast as you can, before anyone can 
> pinpoint you.  I know its a really shady thing to do...but I was not 
> dropping out of college to work two jobs to pay some fat whore 
> insurance money.  If you have a conscience problem with it, read 
> this: ( [open a donut shop] Alcohol vs. Marijuana..  Alcohol = worse. ) .. it 
> might help.   I've been down on my luck before (I'm sure we all have 
> at some point), and I did what I had to do.  I'm not sure how 
> serious your situation is, but you'll do the same...  Act 
> accordinally.
> 
> p.s.
> next time you call someone out looking for advice, you really should 
> make an attempt to spell their name correctly...  However, I suppose 
> I had it coming back to me sooner or later :O O: :O (See: 
> [open a donut shop] Re: The $#!t has hit the fan for me, as a service tender, help! )


Damn Dude!! That was a vague answer??????????

-- 
Chris
www.sfbarman.net

I would like to make a toast to lying, stealing, cheating and drinking. 
If you're going to lie, lie for a friend. 
If you're going to steal, steal a heart.
If your going to cheat, cheat death.
 And if you're going to drink, drink with me.”
-Anon


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