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Subject: Re: Negroni Video
From: angus
Posted: Sun Mar 18. 2007, 15:24 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Negroni Video"  by Adam  (Sun Mar 18. 2007, 03:00 UTC)
Dear A,

thanks for the feedback... and then some.

Here are a few answers and rebuttals IN CAPS

> Hey AW, 
> There's more educamated webtenders out there to nitpick on the 
> Negroni information, but my observations come more from a technical 
> standpoint.
> 
> At the start the presentation style was a bit stiff (watch out for 
> those random hand gestures! I DO WAVE MY HANDS AROUND A LOT WHEN PRESENTING... 
> NOT SURE WHY...) but it started smoothing out as you got 
> into the process of actually making the drink. You seemed far more 
> relaxed after cracking that 14 million 906 joke. So relaxed, in fact, 
> you were singing as you made the lemon twist. ;) WE ONLY SHOT IT TWICE... I 
> HAD A FEW NON STARTERS BUT THEN WE BANGED THROUGH IT IN ONE... THEN SHOIT IT 
> AGAIN CLOSE UP WHERE BI THOUGHT SOUND WAS NOT BEING RECORDED AND WAS ONLY 
> TALKING TO ALLOW THE CAMERA GUY TO FOCUS OM CERTAIN THINGS... CHEERS CAMERA 
> GUY!
 I'm guessing it was 
> just nerves in front of the camera, so perhaps you could do a few 
> 'trial runs' with the camera rolling, say three or so. And then just 
> pick whichever 'trial run' you felt most comfortable with, rather 
> than being 'on the spot' with only one run through. It ain't live 
> television or presenting onstage, you're allowed to reshoot. ;) 
> It's noticeable that you've got a fair chunk of training under your 
> belt as a public speaker, but often public speaking and video 
> presenting use different presentation methods and the message is 
> delivered in a different way. Body language  and eye contact, for 
> example, are much more noticable on the small screen. 
> You only get one shot at making a good impression, so make it a 
> killer! And don't be afraid to look at the camera; especially via 
> video, it offers an impression of intimacy / honesty. 
> 
> Good job with the (downlight?) lighting onto the orange peel and 
> lemon zest. First time I've ever actually SEEN the oils! WE LIKED THAT TOO...
> 
> The porno music...what was with the porno music? :P I AGREE BUT ONE MUST 
> CONSIDER COPYRIGHT SO ITS NO MUSIC, PORNO MUSIC OR NON-COPYRIGHT MUSIC...
> 
> A few editing points:
> - The Sweet vermouth pour closeup didn't match up with the longshot 
> of you as you put the bottle away. In the closeup it went down to 
> your right, in the longshot it went down to your left. It's just a 
> little niggle, but it serves to jar the viewer slightly out of their 
> happy little universe. Similarly with the gin pour. You were heard 
> saying "a little cut like that" but if it's intended for training 
> purposes, we didn't actually SEE the cut. AGREED
> - Nice little touch on "the closer the level of the ice and liquid 
> will become" when you moved both your hand and the scoop of ice as 
> weights. Don't know why I like it, I just do. :P SO DO I SO ITS NICE TO HAVE 
> IT ACKNOWLEDGED
> - The finish of the video leaves a bit to be desired (editing wise, 
> not presentation!). Especially on youtube these days, the presenter 
> is as much a part of the video as the content (in this case, the 
> drink). You could perhaps have your parting words to the camera as a 
> cheers, then get a still shot of the Negroni in a gourmet-food style 
> photo shoot with the recipe overlaid to one side? That way, you get 
> your 15 seconds, and so does the drink. The video may be about 
> practical-theoretical training, but it's also about you as a 
> presenter and getting your (charming ;) ) mug out and about to be 
> recognised.
I DID ACTUALLY CLOSE THE FIRST BY TASTING AND SAYING "IT TASTES LIKE ANGELS 
DANCING ON YOUR TONGUE" AND THE SECOND WITH "IF GOD INVENTED ANYTHING BETTER 
HE KEPT IT FOR HIMSELF" BUT THEY GOT CUT... THESE ARE NOT VIDEOS INTENDED TO 
BE SHOWN ON THE INTERNET OR (HEAVEN FORBID) GET ME RECOGNISED BUT AS TRAINING 
AIDS AND THE BASIS OF A SERIES OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THEORY AND PRACTICE IN 
DRINKS MAKING.
> 
> If you get a chance to check out Manuel Terron's clips from Mixing 
> With The Best, the editing on those little sessions is kinda what I'm 
> envisioning as the standard for video-presentation of cocktails. 
> Admittedly he had the power of the Lifestyle channel's editors behind 
> him, but it doesn't mean we can't aspire.
I WAS OBVIOUSLY ON MWTB WITH MANNY IN LONDON AND AS YOU SAY HE HAD 2 
PROFESSIONALS FILMING AND A WHOLE EDITING RESOURCE BEHIND HIM...
> 
> Other than that, a fantastic first foray. I was surprised at the 
> length of the video; most videos run at about 3 minutes, but you 
> delivered an education on history and theory as well as simple 
> easy-to-follow steps. It was worth an extra two minutes of my 
> precious precious time. 
> Overall, I liked the format and the presentation. Just a few tweaks 
> on editing and a bit more relaxed presentation style (just at the 
> start, the rest was a cakewalk for you), and it'll be a winner. 
> Cheers!
THANK YOU MATE
> 
> Adam
> 
> PS: Stupid non-technical question: what kind of knife did you use on 
> the orange? Is that a ceramic one?

I HOPED SOMEONE WOULD LIKE THAT... OI PICKED IT UP IN A WILLIAMS AND SONOMA UP 
HERE... ITS A CERAMIC COATED FRUIT KNIFE... I NORMALLY USE VICTORINOX TOMATO 
KNIVES AS MY STANDARD BAR KNIFE BUT BEING IN THE USA I DID NOT WANT TO GET 
INTO THE WHO TOM-AR-TO VERSUS TO-MAY-TO THING AND SAW THIS ONE... GOTTA LOVE 
YOUR TOOLS...


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