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Subject: Re: Starbucks, Chocolate liquors questions.
From: rick_1982
Posted: Wed Nov 30. 2005, 14:06 UTC
Followup to: "Re: Starbucks, Chocolate liquors questions."  by Natrone  (Wed Nov 30. 2005, 10:22 UTC)
> > So I saw the Starbucks coffee liquor on the shelf today and must say 
> > 
> > it's a very attractive bottle. I was wondering if anyone has any 
> > experience with it, as I'm rather disappointed in the "coffee flavor" 
> > 
> > (or complete lack thereof) in Kahlua and wanted a nice obvious coffee 
> > 
> > flavor in my coffee drinks.

   didn't even know that starbuck's had a liquer out! so can't comment on 
that. however for an enjoyable espresso flavour I'd recommend you try 'Illy 
coffee liquer' (Although I'm not 100% sure if its available in US or in your 
particular state)  

> I use Kahlua and fresh espresso in something such as an espresso 
> martini.  I don't think of them as interchangeable as the Kahlua has 
> sweetness and other notes (like vanilla) that straight coffee does 
> not.  If you're talking about coffee drinks (liquers + hot coffee) 
> than you shouldn't need to add much coffee flavor to it.  Kahlua (or 
> the SB) is nice in a Keoki or Mexican Coffee but for me it seems a 
> tad redundant, I'd rather add things like Cointreau, Frangelico, 
> Bailey's and chocolate liquer (not all together!).  

agree completely.
 
> 
> > Secondly, in trying various chocolate liquors I can't help get past 
> > 
> > the artificial and singular flavor of those liquors. Mostly I use 
> > them in my chocotini (Stoli Vanilla helps to add a little 
> > complexity). Any suggestions for a more complex, more CHOCOLATEY 
> > liquor?

I've heard of Godiva, but haven';t had the chance to try them. Mozart makes a 
fine range of chocolate liquers. Although not incredibly complex, they do tend 
to be very rich in the chocolate flavour.

Frangelico works beautifully in a chocolate Martini too. (credit to Ian 
Johnson)

I make my chocolate martinis:

25ml Vodka
20ml chocolate liquer
10ml Frangelico
10ml Xanath Vanilla Liquer
5ml Amaretto
5ml Butterscotch Schapps

Stir with ice and strain in to a room temperature Martini glass. serve with a 
chocolate rim. 
You will find the liquers marrying together well and offering a lot more depth 
to the drink as opposed to a one dimensional vodka and cacao combination. Yes 
its a bit sweet, but most people who ask for a chocolate martini have a sweet 
tooth anyway. Yes its not as strong and yes its delicious!
  
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As a great bartender once said: "I don't mix drinks, I mix people"


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